Sunday, September 27, 2009

WINGS OF ART: Joseph Campbell on James Joyce



The Audio quality gets a bit choppy occasionally, though it didn't stop me from listening to it twice through this week, enjoy!

WINGS OF ART: PART ONE








WINGS OF ART: PART TWO








WINGS OF ART: PART THREE








WINGS OF ART: PART FOUR








WINGS OF ART: PART FIVE








WINGS OF ART: PART SIX






13 comments:

Toby said...

Astounding stuff, so totally clear.

A master story-teller seems to put to shame the occasional obscurity of yer average guru pontificating.

As JC tells the tale, you can go through the Ericksonian changes just listening...

Magic!

FLY AGARIC 23 said...

I'm only half way through part 2. And I'm reeling in laughter and seeing Bob everywhere around the room. The parts about Shell's and the ocean have a particular ring with me. Space time and causality...so much goodness. Cheers Bobby.

Toby said...

Part Three! (what a joy to shut my eyes and just listen, getting away from the visual culture, the visual and spacial).

Acoustic space; time; the blind person who taps through Ulysses expresses time and rhythm, the ticking of the clock.

Joseph's enthusiastic readings (not 'his understandings', but literal, oral, reading of the text out loud) of Joyce reminded me that someone somewhere suggested that Joyce thought he had written the great comic novel!

Joe suppresses secret chuckles as he gets to the good bits... :-)

Perhaps you might read JC's message here as "don't read Joyce with the furrowed brow and frown of the serious intellectual."

Maybe like "read (or see enacted) 'Waiting for Godot' as a Laurel and Hardy sketch".

If your subvocals can't do the accent(s) for Ulysses, check Joseph out for breath control, rhythm and sense.

I wish he'd recorded the whole book!

Bogus Magus said...

I had listened to a certain amount of Joseph Campbell (thanks Bobby!) and suddenly heard the parallel (crucial to FW at least) of the River Liffey and the River Lethe.

Easy to miss things! I had come across the River Lethe (drink of the waters of oblivion) in the context of reincarnation. That when we ‘chose’ (in a Buddhist sense, perhaps) to come back into a physical incarnation, drawn back by unfinished business, maybe, we forgot all previous experiences. Think of Doris Lessing’s “Briefing for a Descent into Hell” (in Gnostic terms of ‘materiality’, I guess).

So Lethe has something to do with ALP = the River Liffey, and the dreaming universe. Her opposite, by the way, gets named as Mnemosyne – drink from the waters of memory, instead of forgetfulness.

I enjoyed that, but didn’t feel a whoop until I went to explore Lethe – a daughter of Eris (it says here!)

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Toby said...

I loved the 6th and last piece, not quite so hilarious, but very intriguing.

A book arrived today, “Mythic Worlds, Modern Words”, a collection of JoeC on JJoyce, including a chapter called “Wings of Art.” Now I can read him with his voice in my head!

I have noticed how immersive it feels to have to just listen to a voice, without a storyteller to watch.

Immersion in the acoustic space maybe works best with headphones?

Or just leave them off, John Cage’s random ‘noises in the street’ still proving an important part of the sound track of amusing consciousness within the acoustic space?

If you don’t feel familiar with the four phases of Vico’s, you might want to look at Bobby’s images in a thing we did for MQ. You’ll even see the one of the 100 letter words for the Thunder that JC reads out...

ABABADLGHARAGHTAKAMMINARRONNKONNBRONNTONN
ERRONNTUONNTHUNNTROVARRHOUNAWNSKAWNTOO
HOOHOORDENENTHURNUK!

Or keep your eyes shut, and just listen...

But wait, what happened to his theory of the book which would follow FW? Damn. Gotta listen to the whole cycle again. You can’t jump around in streaming media, seems to me, you have to commit to it...I could put Joseph segments on shuffle and rarely feel disappointed...


Here Comes Everyone again...!

barakabashment said...

Thanks for posting these. I also got into:"don't read Joyce with the furrowed brow and frown of the serious intellectual."

Total and partial non-sequitor: Parabola magazine is coming out with an unpublished talk by Campbell in their latest issue. Also Ouija stuff, gift economy stuff, Tarot stuff, and the first article from an insanely anticipated book of Madame de Salzmann's journal writings. Crazy!

Anonymous said...

Thank you very much for this post, both helpfull and beautiful, a rare meeting. Campbell's work seems many leagues away from the dead-man's stiffness of academic work and Joyce's far deeper than production-line entertainment...

And Campbell's reading is fantastic!

I was wondering if you happen to know the name of the piece that plays at the beginning of each part?


-Lazarus

Fred said...

@Joe 'getting away from the visual culture, the visual and spacial' the ineluctable modality of the visible!

Anonymous said...

Tom here,

I love your site. I was listening to Campbell's Wings of Art, and I hope you take no offense to this at all, but it seems as if part 2 is truncated. Campbell appears to say something regarding Christ, but it cuts out and doesn't pick back up in Part 3. Hope I don't sound ungrateful, but as a big Joyce fan and Campbell fan, it would be interesting to hear it if possible. You can't really buy this one anymore.

Alias Bogus said...

Hi Tom
I don't actually know the source for these clips, or whether Bobby still has the originals, but will try to find out.

Bobby Campbell said...

Hey Tom & Toby,

No offense taken! But unfortunately these are the files as I found them.

I would guess there's probably about 10 - 15 minutes missing from part 2, judging from the other parts.

Amazon has the original CDs for sale for around around $100.

Which as ridiculous as that sounds, when I originally posted this back in 2009, they were selling for $600!

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for posting these. I am so grateful. I am reading through Ulysses, finally and enjoying every bit of it. Maybe I will tackle Finnegans Wake one day. In my environment I am so alone enjoying Ulysses that weren't it for the internet I would feel it even more.
Thank you.

Reader.

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